The Fucking Champs Live.

Reckon this was when they were touring IV. The camera is sorta all over the place and not on Josh Smith some of the time it should be, but still a righteous set:

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4 Responses to The Fucking Champs Live.

  1. Robert says:

    Yes – both of the two live sets I’ve witnessed were indeed righteous. Josh’s guitar sound reminded me of Carcass circa “Necroticism” – which, in an attempt to throw a wrench in your strict separation between music and theory, I would posit as a very Marxian project, being largely about “economical ways of disposing of dead bodies.”

    Btw, what do you think of Geoff Mann’s treatment of value in this piece? (If you have time, of course):

    http://www.sfu.ca/~geoffm/papers/Value_HM.pdf

    • HR says:

      Carcass or Joshes guitar sound were very Marxian projects?

      Have you read Joshes new band–Futur Skullz? they shred.

      ill have a look at the Mann piece. Got plenty of time now that my thesis is being copy edited.

      • Robert says:

        Sorry – poor sentence structure in the above. I meant “Necroticism” (Carcass LP) as Marxian project. One of my favorite bits, e.g.: “Where should stand row upon row of cold grey remembrance stones – My cash crops now grow…”.

    • HR says:

      Robert,

      Thanks for the recommendation. I have to say I agree with the main points made:

      I argue that value is best understood as a form of social wealth constituted by a spatially and temporally generalising social relation of equivalence and substitutability under, and specific to, capitalism – and that a categorial focus shows that despite massive ‘devaluations’, the value-relation is not itself in crisis. On the contrary, it is running at near full capacity, erasing the difference between ‘financial’ and ‘real’ capitals, values, and assets. Consequently, attempts to understand the crisis that rely on material distinctions between ‘real’ and ‘fictitious’ values and capitals overstate the extent and depth of the crisis for capital, and underestimate the virtually uninterrupted consolidation of the rule of the value, i.e. the territorial and historical imperative of equivalence and substitutability.

      However, although I read it quickly (1) I wasn’t clear why he made such a big todo about criticizing McNally, when the criticism he had seemed rather minor. (2) I was disappointed he didn’t link the points he made to a more in depth analysis of the crisis.

      Still thanks for the tip I think i’ll use it in something i’m trying to write about PR, value and the question of productive labour.

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